Sherif

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From :   Gorsian

Date : 2009-11-07 / 03:04AM

Hello Mr Benny ,

Is it right that this character 烟=yān ?

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Sherif

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 Gorsian hotmail.com 
2010-01-11 / 04:03AM
To : Joey

HA HA HA HELLO MR JOEY HOW ARE U

YESSS THANK YOU VERY MUCH

Yes I know that the link that you gave it to me showing how to pronounce it

BUT ( TCHEE OR THGEE OR ) are writing pronunciation of these Pinyin (zhē zhé zhě zhè)

For Example this Pinyin zhē we pronounce it as ( TCHEE ) OR ( TCHGE ) So what

is the Right pronunciation Sound of this Pinyin zhē is it ( Tchee ) or

(tchgee) so what is the right sound of this

and about hearing the Pinyin sound from the link that you give it to me I cannot

Differentiate the sound of this pinyin Family (zhē zhé zhě zhè)
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joey

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 Joey askbenny.net 
2010-01-11 / 11:12AM
To : Gorsian

Hi Gorsian

Why you cannot differentiate the 4 sound? are you sure you clicked that 4 tone button in right way
in the ‘PinYin Table’ page?
I think (zhē zhé zhě zhè) are different tone, or you can try to listen them carefully again.

and for the (TCHEE….) , who gave you this? hehe, I am not sure it is correct way to learn chinese
PinYin… Anyway you need to learn how to pronounce the PinYin in correct way.

good luck my friend, :-)

Joey



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Sherif

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 Gorsian hotmail.com 
2010-01-11 / 10:31PM
To : Joey

Hello Mr Joey,,

Thanks yes I clicked on the Tones zhē zhé zhě zhè and I heard the Mr Benny Voice

To Pronounce these Tones BUT you can Easily Hear And Also To differentiate Many

other Pinyin Like Ta , Fei , Yan , Tai …. etc that easy to hear it Clearly and

Pronounce it Also by Easy and Easy …

BUT AND BUT In Case of ( zhē zhé zhě zhè and also zhi and also zhu )This ZH

I cannot hear it Clearly because in English there isnot any known word having

this arrangement of this Two Letters ( ZH ) I know this (Ch) and That (sh)

so this ( ch ) can gives sound ( shhhh ) and also this ( sh ) gives sound of

( shh ) So the Diffrence between this sound CH and that sound SH is of the

duration of the TUNE

N.B: this Shhhh and shh is the way to write the TUNE not Pinyin Because Mr

Joey I chat With you By Writing Not Speaking and of course these sounds Tunes ( tchee or tgee ) that is Tunes not Pinyin

Do you understand Now My Dear I know it is very funny but we have to try

Best Regards

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joey

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 Joey askbenny.net 
2010-01-11 / 11:30PM
To : Gorsian

Hello Gorsian,

Now, I understand you problem, for Z and ZH, S and SH, C and CH, many Chinese
people who living in south of China cannot pronounce them very well,
For ZH, SH, CH, when you pronounce them, you need to roll your tongue,

btw, I remember you told me there are many Chinese people are living in
your city, right? if so, you can ask them to teach you how to speak ‘ZH, SH, CH’,
I think you can learn fast in this way, but you need to make sure they can
speak very standard Mandarin first.

Joey



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Sherif

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 Gorsian hotmail.com 
2010-01-12 / 05:36AM
To : Joey

Hello Mr Joey ,,

Yaa you are right but I don not think asking Chinese people in my city is good

Idea they don’t speak standard mandarin other wise i am rarely see them but if there is a chance to speak to one of them I will try to do it

And There is noo problem with Me to pronounce These Pinyin sounds SH AND CH

The Problem is in these Pinyin ( ZHE , ZHI , ZHU ) How to Pronounce it Right

So I decided to make an Idea the Idea is to Write the Sounds of these Pinyin

Tunes ( ZHE , ZHI , ZHU ) I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE AS FOLLOWING

The Sound Of Cat Is Meeeeioo Meeeeiooo are you understand me

The Sound of Dog is Haaaaaaaaaaw Haaaw and sooo on

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I want from you to write to me the sound of these Pinyin

( ZHE , ZHI , ZHU )Like the Previous Example My Dear .

Thank you And Best regards.

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 Joey askbenny.net 
2010-01-13 / 11:59PM
To : Gorsian

Hi Gorsian

I know your examples, but I think I have no idea how to mark ZHE, ZHI, ZHU in your way, so sorry for that,
and I think you better to listen the audio in PinYin Table page very carefully.

Best regard

Joey



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Sherif

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 Gorsian hotmail.com 
2010-01-14 / 05:47AM
To : Joey

Hi Mr Joey How are you ,

Yes I agree with you Its is Hard to write the Pronunciation of ZHE, ZHI, ZHU

But once Upon a time I went to Chinese Council in Alexandria ( city That I live in)
And I met Chinese Teacher She Is a girl

She Wrote the Pronounce of ZHE As this ( Tche ) Taking in consideration the Pinyin Accons zhē zhé zhě zhè

So I asked you to make Sure about this And TO Hear From You Also But If you cannot Never mind at all

Best Regards ,

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joey

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 Joey askbenny.net 
2010-01-14 / 10:02AM
To : Gorsian

Hi Gorsian

I don’t know ‘Tche,TCHEE, THGEE’ I asked Mandarin teachers from AskBenny, they don’t know either,
Maybe ‘Tche,TCHEE, THGEE’ is kind of TaiWan PinYin.

Best Regards

Joey



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Sherif

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 Gorsian hotmail.com 
2010-01-15 / 05:52AM
To : Joey

HEllo Mr Joey ,

Ha Ha No No It is not TaiWan PinYin. Tche,TCHEE, THGEE is the way to Pronounce

Zhe I WILL Give YOU AN EXAMPLE :

The Word Knife That is in English We Pronounce It Like This Nife (NIFE)

Soooo NIFE is the Writing Pronunciation of Word ( KNIFE ) Oke

Other Example : The Word ( THAT ) We Pronounce It In English Like ( ZATT )

And of Course We Don not Write In English ZATT Instead of THAT

And of Course Also We Don not Write ( NIFE ) Instead of ( Knife )

Because It Is Wrong But Why I told You about ( Nife ) and ( Zat )

I told You About That :
To Clear To you How To pronounce The Word Knife And That

Your Ears Don not Hear K Letter For Word KNIFE

And Also Your Ears Don not Hear T letter For THAT

So NIFE is Writing Pronunciation of The Word KNIFE And ZAT is the Writing

Pronunciation of the Word THAT

Sooo What is The Writing Pronunciation of The Word ( ZHE )

is it ( TCHEE OR TGHEE OR other Pronounce )

N.B 1 : TCHEE and TGHEE and NIFE and ZAT is Writing pronunciation of the Word

using Detailed English Letters Sounds To Clear To first Learner How To

Pronounce some complex Words with the Right Way .

N.B 2 : the Letter Z is not Hear By Ear in Word ( ZHE ) .

N.B 3 : NIFE you Hear it When you Pronounce The Word KNIFE You Donnot Hear The

K Letter in the Word Knife Sooo NIFE is The Writing of What you Hear When You

Pronounce The Word KNIFE

SOOO Can you Write To Me What I hear In English Letter When I Pronunce This
( ZHE ) ?

Don not Worry Mr JOEY .

Best Regards ,

Gorsian .

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joey

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 Joey askbenny.net 
2010-01-22 / 10:49PM
To : Gorsian

Dear friend,

Sorry for reply to you so late, I was busy to change our domain name to www.askbennychinese.com,
I thought about which english letter pronunciation is similar ‘Zhe’ whole day, but I failed,
I need to ask someone and reply you later.

have a good day.

Joey



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